Friday, October 28, 2005

WHAT WOMEN WANT...

There truly IS a sense of mystery and enigma linked with the women as a whole, and womenhood abounds with several of its well-kept secrets, as well as equally baffling choices and acts which are just so inexplicable, even to fellow women, but still they continue to be universal! I know it's pretty strong statement I make here, but then a
little patient thought would make anyone agree, for it's indisputable the complexity of women. And yes, despite being a female myself, I'd agree to this (ir)rationale of the women's mind. I'm not really out here to divulge too many secrets here, but just to relate more aspects which force me to think if I look at them from a disjoint perspective, keeping myself away from it.

The most conspicuous of these are the issues of choices when it comes to marriage/relationships/life partners. Sometimes, the choices are pretty baffling, even if they are relatively free from the "love-is-blind" syndrome. (In my vainest moments, I've lamented once or twice to guys who call girls brainless that I agree with this fact on the sole grounds that girls DO fall for guys and care for them).One such issue, rather contemporary around me, is the baffling number
of girls I see in IIT who have married IIT-ians! Almost all of them have married either their batchmates or a senior or something like that. And obviously all of them can't be happy love stories born in college culminating in marriage. Yet at a recent alumni meet in my hostel, every woman was the wife of an ex-IITian. which brings me to my first question- why are they so stupid? Can't they find anyone else?

And irrespective of the title of the post, it's about men as well- Why do they agree??!!?!?!
Leave the cynicism apart pls, and try to think a little reasonably. For four years or more, IIT guys continue calling every girl in the college all sorts of things, and girls have sufficient frustration and disregard for them. Sure there are the few lovebirds around, but for it to be a mass phenomenon, there has to be a deeper story.
My theory goes as follows:
1. We're at one level victims of the herd mentality, and therefore we ridicule the opposite sex as "Ah! these IITian guys!" or "These IITian gals!" just because everyone seems to be doing so, and generalisation is convenient. At a personal level though, we feel differently when it comes to individuals so statements like "all guys are disgusting, pervert B******s but X is a sweet guy, and Y is a cute friend, and Z is so decent" are equally true.

2.Even though you may argue that not all guys marry IIT gals, I believe that's more because of the ratios than anything else. I think a lot many would agree to have an IITian wife, if they have an option. Not all, but a substantial number. I feel this because of the COMPATIBILITY factor. I feel a lot of IITians do not fit in that well in the society outside, because of the 'different' ways of growing up. It's tough
adjusting to the 'outside' way of life after all u have seen is childhood, acads, JEE, four yrs here, an rigorous job schedules. I feel it's tough for IIT guys to adjust with a DU-type girl, and vice-versa.

3.The ways of thinking are so radicaly different. Understanding comes naturally in same college-same profession cases, as even practical things like adjusting to habits, language, work timings etc becomes easy.

3.For girls, it's more about a natural preference for a life partner who's superior to them-esp. professionally. As Shalabh put it, there has to be a power balance in a marriage, and one doesn't want to end up with a husband who has an ego clash with you because you earn more! For
someone from IIT, the bare minimum is another IITian.

4.Someone might say, that's because nobody else marries IIT girls. But obviously that isn't true. IIT girls are bold, smart, intelligent, mature and understanding. And for all cynics, the fact remains that you don't want a show piece or a glam doll for a life partner, do you? It's a question of life, and therefore sanity is the need. So there shouldn't be a problem, unless insecurities are a huge issue.

5.IITians are like a certain elitist section in the society, with whom every interaction has an 'aloofness' factor. But that's just a stupid idea!

Having said all this, I'm a little at peace, but still a little amazed at the extent of this phenomena...No, I'm not looking for a guy around as my life partner. Not yet.

45 comments:

Anonymous said...

I had come to comment on the previous entry. So I will do that first. Interestingly, guys dont change their language in front of girls in Canada. The society is much more equal even in this respect. You put up entries so quickly i cant even keep up with the comments.

Anonymous said...

I didnt know that a lot of iitians marry each other. I never came across this before. I thought that there would be an ego clash between two iitians. However, if its true then your reasoning seems pretty exhaustive. you certainly never run out of topics.

Raja said...

Ment

1. Please search an IITian gal for me.
2. kaash, if only I could be in IIT
3. IIT
4. IIT
5. IIT

:-p

Raja said...

oh, btw, about the enigma: it's just low IQ. Like I was watching a programme on National Gegraphic where they said "even though elephants can be tamed to some extent, their behaviour still remains an enigma."

:-p

mIncl said...

the heading should've been what IIT women want, anyway, first the compliment- good topic and well written,

"A lot many would agree to have an IITian wife" why? i think there are two kinds of men, those who worship beauty(physical) and those who put the brains on a higher rung, for the latter its obvious choice but for the former the only reason i think is the just the tag of IIT, nothing more. for women its true they'd seldom want someone who is inferior to them, perhaps thats why men sing the song of brainlessness in women,

for the adjusting part, its not only that only simiar people marry, opposites do attract, and you'd have heard tales of marriages of people from very different professions, succeding.

regarding the aloofness factor i wonder at times, does people from IIT have some arrogance in them(nothing against you, i know u are not at all arrogant), not in general but some of them might have?

Pareshaan said...

Three cheers for the women of IIT, nice read, thanks.

CB said...

Fate..fate..! You can't change it..!

Anirudh said...

"IIT girls are bold, smart, intelligent, mature and understanding."

Smart,intelligent,mature maybe true for some of them...but bold?? No way!!

VERTIGO said...

I don't know,if i get a non-IITian wife she is guaranteed to be prettier ,maybe even blessed with common sense atleast I can always point out that I am an IITian,hence probably my decision is more sensible[hey that makes perfect sense].And plus I think,that IITian guys and gals are too much like one another to make a good couple,'cause like poles repel,isn't it.

Kaala Kavva said...

good good
acha likha hai
I agree with you on everything u say here.....

Phoenix said...

@shivam

sorry...i guess i post abit too much...but i have to keep up with the ideas that keep flowing out of me...i already have atleast two or three posts in my mind!
But it's ok., even belated comments are welcome, on the latest or the prvs post. i read and reply to all of them!

As regards the last entry, i was talkin more in terms of Indian, esp because i was talkin of hindi etc. i think in societies like canada, the language is more or less made up of abuses rather than being spiced by it!:P
though of crse, they're not looked at as abuses.

Even i was surprised by the sheer volumes i saw as examples of this phenomenon, and there are fewer ego clashes than i anticipated. IIT girls learn to live with a lot, during their graduation!


@Ment

Arey, main IIT mein hi to hoon1
:D:D


But u dare not call gals low IQ.
I'll kill u in dec for this!!
:P:P:P

Phoenix said...

@romi

Yaar i hope u realsie that although i'm talkin of iit here, situation is not much different in medical and many engg college too...where the sex ratios are poor basically... though there are some modifications to the argument.

I said a lot many wd agree, not all...and as i said, u dont want a glam doll for a life partner...ur wife is not meant to eb a showpiece, or is she!

Brainlessness songs are more like male ego ballads!

Yes, ppl from diff backgrounds can and do make successful couples....i was just wondering about how rare that is wrt this.
i am just acting on situational evidence.

aloofness, or arrogance, well....i dont think u can generalise that term with iitians at all...there maybe some ppl who have an arrogance, for watever freason, but that kind of a percentage is seen EVERYWHERE in all professions.
i dont think generalisation s fair.

i dont think i, or a lot of my frnds, are arrogant at all..infact iit is a good place to learn self-hmiliation!

@pareshaan
hip hip hurray!!

thanx.

@karthik

Fate....now thats an itneresting twist...lemme think more on this1

mIncl said...

regarding arrogance, perhaps we should not fall for prejudices, they are dangerous, i should've learned something from mani's post on dipsites.
thanks yar tune meri aankhen khol dee
sob sob (khushi ke aansu) :)

Azeem said...

"In my vainest moments, I've lamented once or twice to guys who call girls brainless that I agree with this fact on the sole grounds that girls DO fall for guys and care for them."
Such sweet things girls are...i m waiting yet for one to fall for me..
Cheers..

shaurya vaani said...

"IIT girls are bold, smart, intelligent, mature and understanding."....huh!!!

Phoenix said...

@the last czar
Well, it is some telepathy, and it is also the fat that i discussed this a bit with u.
But yeah, get ur dabba repaired.
Anyway is there anything u wanted to say in ur post and i havent?

Well, I absolutely do not think it is an uncommon phenomenon. The last IITD marriage I heard was of a hostel senior who passed out two yrs back.
You are missing out on an important point...marrying an IITian later on in life does not mean u were involved , or even interested in her when she was a batchmate. A lot of 'friends' and 'acquaintances' realise they gel well, and get married after college. On-campus couples might or might not, but atlst a few will...very likely.

bliv me that`s not remotely close to the guy`s perception here
Think again, carefully, or maybe, think after a few yrs perhaps...or ask a few ppl..watever..the one thing u WILL realise is that "perception" and preferences DIFFER. What u want in your girlfriend is NOT, to a very large extent, what u want in ur wife. Currently u look at a girl as a prospective partner for romance and judge her, not a partner for life! There is a whole lot of difference.
I mean thr lives are easily as screwed up as ours, academically.
agreed.
wud u still choose to spend ur entire life with an IITian guy?

that's what initially baflled me too, buddy

I`m sure IIT guys can easily adjust with an average DU gal
Trust me, it's tough for many of them.

@vertigo
maybe even blessed with common sense
Huh?
I can always point out that I am an IITian
Ego huh?

IITian guys and gals are too much like one another to make a good couple
this is FUNNY
:))))))

Read ur comment again, do u SERIOUSLY believe in this..if yes, i'm happy, an IITian girl is blessed!

Voice said...

In my vainest moments, I've lamented once or twice to guys who call girls brainless that I agree with this fact on the sole grounds that girls DO fall for guys and care for them.
then wat u suggest... for girls to fall for... :P

why are they so stupid? Can't they find anyone else?
they are not stupid.more than anything; power factor salary factor...love factor is also there. 4/5 yrs in a totally free institute. Pyar to hona hi thaaa...

insane said...

IIT has girls ??...on which planet ??..hehehhe
I COMPLETELY disagree with u...i still believe there are sane ppl left on this earth not to marry IIT girls!
"It's tough ... childhood, acads, JEE, four yrs here, an rigorous job schedules." - u make me feel like having a tormented childhood and youth...sorry i didnt go thru all that for sure.
"For someone from IIT, the bare minimum is another IITian" - i differ..after all its an interaction b/w 2 humans..DU ppl also have grey cells if thats what u mean..ego etc can crop up anywhere.
" IIT girls old,smart,intelligent, mature and understanding"- haven't seen dat junta at my place
I dont think life partner is all about acads,alumini of premier instis,power etc...there is much more to it !!
newyas well written.but can hardly agree to all d stuff written.

Anonymous said...

canada is not so bad.. i mean i wont say the language is made of abuses.. no way.

Rays Of Sun said...

Coz IIT guys somehow, never think beyond IIT and its life!

Phoenix said...

@anirudh and shaurya

Well, I thought so...IIT girls ke bare mein ek do achhe shabd keh diye to kahin se to awaaz aani hi thi...
Koi baat nahi...See of course I'm talking on ver general terms..the whole world is obviously not an equatiion of IITians versus non-IITians, but still if you think coolly and logically and compare, you'll notice that most IIT girls are smarter and more intelligent than the res..they're definitely more understanding, more mature, better at crisis management, and at handling things in general. I'm not sayign these are traits exclusive to IIT girls, but they have a cdecent collection of these 'human'qualities ifu look carefully.

As far as 'bold' is consiodered ani, girls here learn to live with a lot of things, and understand, tolerate and live despite much. We can walk throught dark corrdiors and in rooms full of 1000 men and no women exteremely confidently, which will give jitters to a lot many outside. boldness is also a function of ur thinking, and mark of assertiveness and survival instincts, rather than just the sense i thought u took it in.

@romi
arey bache rona band karo...
ae paro, i hate tears re...
aj to khushi ka mauka hai...

...and all those finmi dialogue...

See the point is, pre-conceived notions are occasionally helpful as guiding pointers, but in general, we shdn't and cant base opinions and judgements on them. It's not fair to enter into smthng with a mind too full with skewed concepts.
Everythig depends from indivifual to individual. prejudices impair.


@azeem

hey thanx for dropping by here...
Yeah I'll hope and pray for u that u get ur sweet one soon!
:)

@voice
1.yeah, matter of unavailability of choice...poor luck!
no options1:(

2.love! ok so u believe in that..but then, not all marriages are love marriages. or atleast not of love that originated during college yrs!

Phoenix said...

@insane

Well, thanx for completely disagreeing. adds fun to the debate!:p

1. IIT has girls..stop insulting..we're talking beyond cynicism here.
2.naah..my childhood wasnt tormented...but in general, lot of ppl have that as the story of their lives.life begins once u step into iit for a lot of them, and then it's a disappointing life!
3. look i respect ur arguments. that's what i believed in as well...but the whole point s, this whole post and discussion is basically an attempt by me to find a reason for wat i see happening. sort of giving a theoretical hypothesis to an experimental observaion, and not the other way round.
I dont really believe that IIT girls or guys shd SHOULD marry each other..I'm just baffled by the observation that they are, and I'm trying to reason it out.
that's it.

@shivam
oh..sorry then...dont take it personally pls...it wasa general comment, meant to be humorous!
and thanx for dropping by so frequently. I stopped posting quickly because of ur fear!!:P:P:

@ROS
i dotn think that's true..IIT guys do THINK about EVERYTHING..
and basically, why single out guys?!?!?

Anonymous said...

@phoenix
1. no option for boys also... i guess.

2.yes i believe in love...and i remember some of ur stat messages ( a couple of months back ) on love. Anyway i dont know abt iitd but in iitkgp 99% of the (final and prefinal yrs) girls are committed and all say they will end (aisa maine suna hai... ) up in wedlock. So i used to think that love is the main reason .. apart from all worldly reason which only act as justifications :D

~Voice

Anonymous said...

"girls have sufficient frustration and disregard for them."

i dont think it goes well with the rest of your post..:)..lest if "frustation" means something else..

"IITians are like a certain elitist section in the society"

haha..do you think the fact that u and me are in iit, makes us elite..id like to know how :)??

i was also so keen on commenting on the same quote that anirudh and shaurya did on, and sneer at it..:)
but then u come up with a similar one in your reply to them
"IIT girls are smarter and more intelligent than the res."
do you think intelligence is knowing Newton's Binomial Theorem? no, i am not saying that females here are stupid nerds. they are nice people to have around..but i havent come across a rational broad mind..(i maybe wrong, for such things in most cases are beyond the apparent) except may be a couple of them..(no use askin me who)

ekantha said...

It is interesting to see how few girls have chosen to comment. I am thinking that perhaps you are coming across as exclusive but then again, maybe you are not...?

Anonymous said...

"IIT girls are bold, smart, intelligent, mature and understanding."
I did not get the joke :( elaborate.

N David said...

First a confession, I am what can be called half an IITian.

All these things you have mentioned happen in the less 'resource blessed' but equally competitive world of professional education outside the IIT shell as well. In the not so protected campuses, life is tougher and girls and guys actually learn to trust each other rather well as guys 'take care' of girls many a time. And I think most girls like being taken care of, in a subtle way.

And I dont think the brain is the most visible aspect of a girl. Every guy takes to girl because he finds her physically attractive at some level or the other.. even the curl of your lips when u smile is enough, but it is physical. IIT or no IIT, that works first. Then one of the following happen

GUY1: Wants a co-passenger in life
GUY2: Wants a housemaid

GIRL1: Wants a co-passenger in life
GIRL2: The Blonde personality..

1. Guy1 wouldn't stand a girl2
2. Guy2 wouldn't stand girl 1
3. Guy No1. would fall if he gets the girl No1.
4. Guy No.2 would fall if he gets girl No2.

There are exceptions and conditions

a.. Girl/Guy has IIT elitist ego.. no matter who she/he marries but an IITian, the other is doomed.
b.. Girl/ Guy has no egos..IIT or no IIT, given case 3 or 4 works, it is "They lived happily ever after" in most cases.

Some extreme cases.

Girl believes being an empowered woman means becoming a man. Man thinks giving space means letting go. Both get a Sad end which cannot be described.

And I am available for discussion of this delicate topic over a cup of coffee.. what say you?

Anonymous said...

"IIT girls are bold, smart, intelligent, mature and understanding."

Excuse me!?!

"I feel it's tough for IIT guys to adjust with a DU-type girl, and vice-versa."

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about!! Having read this statement, i couldnt help place your expertise on the issue addressed in the post, as low as that of a tabloid called times of india.

"Even though you may argue that not all guys marry IIT gals, I believe that's more because of the ratios than anything else. I think a lot many would agree to have an IITian wife, if they have an option."

As i said, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about!!

"there has to be a power balance in a marriage, and one doesn't want to end up with a husband who has an ego clash with you because you earn more!"

this is very true.

"nobody else marries IIT girls. But obviously that isn't true....So there shouldn't be a problem, unless insecurities are a huge issue."

ofcourse insecurity and ego is an issue as you stated earlier, are you not contradicting your own argument now?!!!

--------------------

my take on why so many iit girls end up marrying iit guys, bcos:
1] low interation with the outside world.
2] male ego factor, so outsider male wont marry unless he is from an at par/better institute/orgnization
3] ratio ensures that girl has several options and can pick the best from the best. Note that an iit guy is perceived to be the best match for any girl; iit girl is no exception. Its just that they have the advantage of being in vicinity, clubed with low interaction of males with outside world. Whenever iitians get chance to interact with outside females, such as in rendezvous/socials, the better men almost alway get coupled, leading to marriage very often.

Anand said...

"IIT girls are bold, smart, intelligent, mature and understanding."

ROTFL

Ravi Dixit said...

surprised that so many iitians marry each other :O

like always...very well written...
about the post...bahut saare log bahut bhari bharkam comment kar rahe hain...main unko padh kar hi apna kaam chala leta hoon :P

xtremely_insane said...

well its a fact.
gals from IIT want an equivalent of greater status guy.
and guys too, the same background makes it easier.
most of them have the aloofness factor!

well written. and ur brain must be working overtime for u to get such ideas for a post. anyway good one. :)

Kon ?? said...

Kon ?? comes, sees the number and length of comments and faints :)

Anonymous said...

First things first.There is no such thing as an IIT girl or a DU type girl. Women are women are women. No matter where you are.

"most IIT girls are smarter and more intelligent than the res"-Well brains are not defined by how much time is being devoted to absorbing a textbook on the physical sciences.Try outsmarting a DU type Philosophy major at her subject.You won't be able to.Exactly my point.This is the era of specialisation,and not generalisation. You are good at your thing,Someone else is good at theirs.
"We can walk throught dark corrdiors and in rooms full of 1000 men and no women exteremely confidently, which will give jitters to a lot many outside"
Most IIT girls stay in the safe insulated world that their hostel provides,and the 1000 men that they have to walk past are the (at least outwardly)decent IIT men. Ask any 'DU type' what it feels like to travel daily in Delhi buses,walk everyday on Delhi roads,tolerate looks/comments/gestures/groping/and the likes everyday,
and you will realise there are bolder,more gutsy,and maybe more intelligent (if not more pedantic) women that happen to exist,well,outside your campus.

Brood Mode said...

i've always been baffled by all the things people consider before a marriage/love/relationship... love seems to be last thing. iitian or not iitian should make no difference at all when it comes to "marriage for love"

Phoenix said...

[ALL]

Hey, I kinda appreciate all of you who have come over and spent ur valuable time on this page, reading my post...but plssssssss before this controversy brews up any further, let me clarify one thing...

I AM NOT A CENT PERCENT BELIEVER OF THE THEORY I GAVE. INSPITE OF THE FACT THAT I AM AN IITIAN FEMALE(AND TRUST ME, I'M NEITHER TOO HAPPY NOR PROUD OF THIS:( ), I DO NOT INTEND TO GLORIFY IIT GIRLS OR CLAIM THAT THEY ARE THE BEST AND THAT IS WHY THEY GET THE BEST(?!?!?!?) GUYS AS HUSBANDS. I'M INFACT SHOCKED AT AN OBSERVATION, A BIT OF REALITY THAT I CAME ACROSS, WHICH IS THE ASTONISHING NUMBR OF IITIANS GETTING MARRIED TO EACH OTHER.
I WAS JUST GIVING A POSSIBLE REASON, A HYPOTHESIS. I MAYBE WRONG, BUT I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIND A METHOD IN THE MADNESS.
SO FORGIVE ME ALL, WHO HAVE BEEN OFFENDED....DON'T CRUCIFY ME FOR THINKING A BIT TOO MUCH.

Phoenix said...

@voice

saara pyar lagta hai iit emin hi concentrated hai..
no HUMTUMS here?
:P:P
:D:D:D

@feignman
1. zyada matlab mat nikal...frustapa tujhe bhi pata hai kis bat ka hai

2.i said it's a stupid idea. and it's just the ignorant layman view.
ELITIST snobs.

3.i'll ask u the abt the couple u find graceful and rational enouh in person.till then, enjoy sneering.
nothing can cure the iit guy's attitude.

@ekantha
even i'm intrigued. and why are u trying to call me exclusive!!!:O

@handa, andy
sorry. wasnt meant to be funny. but i have justified myself.

@Sen, ravi
I thought so too:(((me's as surprised.

@xtremely_insane
thanx..at lst someone agrees..wish ppl dont take things personally...
i have been hurtign too many egos here!

@Kon ??

phoenix gives kon ?? a glass of water, he doesnt wake up, then throws a bucket on him, he doesnt wake up, then makes Kon ?? smell his own socks..
Ha..finall...u r up!
Are u fien now, kon ??

:D

@brood
Ah! the ideal world...
yeah i agree with that...but it's not wat always happens!

Phoenix said...

@kd

First of all, thank you.
For reading the post, and for sharing ur thoughts. I see that as usual you have put a lot of thought behind a topic. Thanx for sharing them.
Now..
I agree all thsi happens outside IIT. I agree this is a protected campus. I agree girls like been taken care of.
I wish ppl trusted each other like that here.
I wish someone took care of me too.
And that's why, I'm baffled with harmony still mushrooming, in such copious quantities!

Aboutt he rest of it, I love the delicate way you've put it.
I'm game for a cup(or two) of coffee anytime..My treat! When are u free!!!:D:D
I'd love to hear more on this from u!


@anon
Sorry for hurtin ur ego. Read my comment addressed to ALL above.

Compaison with TOI uis a huge insult, but i take it as ur valuable opinion! just for a clarification, the second time i mentioned insecurities was from a diff point of view..the male point of view.

But that's an interesting angle u add to my hypothesis..
So point number 6 may well be that this happens because IIT guys, being the BEST and the most desired bachelors in town, are unlucky enough to have max exposure only to the sad iit girls, and thats y som of them marry them.

all right, if thats wat u say.
i'd still like to know how many of the "better"guys do we have, how many get lasting girlfrnds at
R'vous and socials!

@visitor
Sorry to u too.
i agree all women are women are women. I got that phrase from a classmate..and IIT guy. thought using it wd make understanding easier!

This is the era of specialisation,and not generalisation.

ABSOLUTELY. All i as talking of was abt perception.

Most IIT girls stay in the safe insulated world that their hostel provides,and the 1000 men that they have to walk past are the (at least outwardly)decent IIT men
I'd rather not get into this.

what it feels like to travel daily in Delhi buses,walk everyday on Delhi roads,tolerate looks/comments/gestures/groping...
I am a delhite. I travel outdoors, in buses et all, and alone. I know wat it is.
It is more of a shame of the times we live in, and the society we live in.
and pls, i never said women outside iit are not intelligent. infact, i;'d say all, or atlst most, women are very intelligent.
By praisin one set, i didnt mean to demean the other. obviously not. i just said iit girls are smart. so are the others. no debate.

for the rest, read the ALL comment.

Kon ?? said...

@phoenix
u threw a bucked on me ?? damn !! that's y i woke up feeling some pain !! damn how cruel iit-gals r (tht was just to put some more fuel in the ongoing controversy, which i havent read a BIT)
:)

PS: dont ever make someone smell his (or anyone's) socks ! it stinks :))

Phoenix said...

AREY GOOD TO SEE U'VE WOKEN UP FINALLY...
DEKHA UR SOCKS WORK:p

AND OF CRSE, THEY STINK MAN:d:d:d

thats why i used them///
:D

haan, i dont expect u to read also..
theek hai, aise hi ho tum

Kon ?? said...

>aise hi ho tum :o ?
haan haan aisa hi hoon main...i cant read text after a certain text length :), coz my understanding ability is inversely proportional to the text length unless until ofcourse the text is related to some sports or some other REALLY interesting topic :)
ya ya i know i hv pretty bad reading habits....

Phoenix said...

U R TRULY AN ENGINEER...
ur reading habits confirm that:))))))))))))))))))))))))

lets see it HCL motivation sessions teach u smthng new...

Anonymous said...

(am late as always but still felt like commenting)
@vistor:"1000 men that they have to walk past are the (at least outwardly)decent IIT men."
i did not get the joke :( elaborate.
i assure u men are the same everywhere.
i believe iit girls too have to travel n that there are enuf DU colleges with their own insulated hostels.
i agree that intelligence goes beyond the realms of colleges but still i am sure the philosophy major u talk about must have tried or at least thought of getting into a professional coll. and if the philosophy was not out of their course book they mightyet be outdone by an iitian..
see, i am not an iitian but there are a few things taken for granted and intelligence is one thing that u hand out to iitians. boldness, smartness n suitability as a life partner is of course open to debate..
@phoenix: i think the questions u raise for iitians can be interpolated to the general population. the higher a man rises on the ladder of academic superiority and financial security the wider becomes his field of potetntial life partners while its totally opposite in the case of women.
as for the result of ur obeservation with iit female alumni . i am true the same can't be said about iit men.infact though the no. i know may be peanuts compared to u, none of them is married to iitian.
and i kind of disagree when u say that "a lot of IITians do not fit in that well in the society outside, because of the 'different' ways of growing up."
atleast they dont give this impression! having known a lot of them very well..they seem as normal socially as anybody else apart from individual cynicisms that prop up in anybody's life.for i think we do a lot of our growing up before we get into college. i feel this may be true for the iit girls to an extent coz they don't really mix up at college level at the level of individuals or as college reps ( u r one BIG exception :) )..and i think the reason is the same again..n iit gal wd generally not go out with a DU guy but i think an iit guy wd not think twice before goin out with a DU girl.and somehow i have gotten the impression that the guys actually prefer this.
so i am not sure they wd face that much problem later on in life..ok going out with a DU gal n getting married to one may not be the same thing.
waise , from what i have inferred so far from my observations and interactions with iitians that iitians give docs a preference in this field..:) female doctors are believed to be intelligent, smart, hardoworking, responsible , caring and totally adaptable to the tough work schedule (considering the round-the-clock job they have).and yes, sweet n beautiful too!
n i see 2 of the comments of the few i read r on similar lines..
:)
and yes i do believe that most guys put their egos above the requirement of intelligence in their partner

- i think u can make out who but i prefer anonymity this time around! ;)i thinku have answered most of the things already!

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